[...]I am not positive where you are getting your info, however good topic.[...]…

Where was this 50 years ago.

When Satan was lowered to the dust being cursed by God, so all of mankind was cursed and fell to a lower spiritual state. At the same time Adam yielded to the Beast, he was cast out. The sin nature is something all of us have and it is the mark of that same beast. A poison apple or a poison snake bight which affected both small and great, rich and poor, and free and bond. This curse described by John fails to leave anybody out.

The choice redeamed christians who overcome and gain victory over the mark of the beast, can only do so through the blood of the lamb according to John.”Revelation 13-2.” Adam sold us out, trading himself and sll of mankind for sin.
Thus, the buying and selling have to do with the souls of men selling out to the beast and worshiping sin, just as in the garden of Eden they had a clear choice to accept Gods path and become redeamed from the evil mark or the fall.

In our day mankind is being sold out by the merchants of the earth who sell sin for money through modern Babylon. They become the modern slaves of “buying and selling the souls of men.”Revelation 18-13.” You cannot buy nor sell today without your taxes being used to defend criminals or buy abortions. Your taxes are used to pay for the cost of sin destroying the world. Sex in movies,commercials and music, sell tooth paste, soap, and a thousand products in our world today. We are all marked by this worlds commerce of sin for sale. Obama bails out a thousand banks who employ criminal conspiring men and you and I are forced to pay for it. You cannot particiapate any other way in the economy.

Thus, you and I are marked to pay the debt of sin. What is so evil about this? Christ already paid the debt for sin. Now we are building a government socialist God of gold to save mankind from himself through money.
Thus, no living man can buy nor sell without having the mark of the beast. The christian must both live in the world, but not be of it spiritually. That is the challenge today.
The christian pays his taxes and renders to Cesar what is Cezars, but he still worships God and refuses to worship the God of this world which is mammon, or money.

The people who go to hell are those who both embrace the mark of the beast for their salvation, and worship the beast and willingly sell their soul to Beast, selling their souls in exchange the sins of the world. What will a man exchange for his soul? Christ asked..
The Christian never accepts this trade off, even though he pays his taxes by law, and even though his right handed works support evil things like abortion..An economic system Marks his right handed works..
But the worshipers of the Beast hate God, and love the world. They have accepted the Beast and his mark by the choice they willingly made in their minds. The mind represents the intellect or the forehead. That is where all of the evil is coming from in the world. “In The forehead”
where the man decides to sell out his soul and worship Satan the Beast. http://www.eternaltruth.net

From: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
To: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
Date: May 7, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

So far you’ve managed to convince me you think all were born with the mark of the beast. Is this true? Do you really thinkl that?

From: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
To: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
Date: May 7, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

We need christians to stop agreeing with the 9/11 conspiracies and the computer chip theology and the scull and bones masonic crap in order to get people united against the real threaght of world government. No one will listen to anybody until we get the crackpot theories that money making preachers invent out of the political and religious mix. Left behind is pure crap!
Your main enemy to the constitution of our country is the liberals of the democrat party, and their liberal social agenda. That is as hard as it gets to understand this thing. These democrats are in concert with the socialists around the world who actively seek to unite world government under the pretense of fighting global warming and world poverty.

They seek a global warming tax in order to justify a united power grab through the world bank. But as long as christians fall for these other dumb conspiracy theories all they do is fall into the trap of blaming America for this problem when those who promote world government hate America, hate George Bush more than any president who ever lived because of Irac, and hate conservative christians who appose abortion and gay marriage. Its that simple , take every other thing you have heard about the new world order and forget it! And, just maybe some smart people in our nation will wake up and hear this message before it is too late.

No one wants to mention the subject of world government as long as crackpots are using it to promote wild conspiracy theories that have no basis of truth. It is that simple. We have a terrible problem with socialists undermining our freedom and we have got to reveal valid information and truth to fight it. The book “Bible prophecies of 9/11″ is the book that will give people those facts.

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From: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
To: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
Date: May 5, 2009 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

Now how can I go look up, in my KJV Bible, the phrase “THE SCRIPTURE SAYS ONLY THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE BEAST,FOREVER WILL RECIEVE HIS MARK” if you don’t give me the reference. Where do I find it? As a matter of fact, how about referencing the rest of that first paragraph? Thanks.

In the third paragraph you misquote scripture. In my Bible it says this: Rev. 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

If you’re going to make things up as you go the best I’m going to be able to do for you is keep you in my prayers…see how that works?

Lloyd

From: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
To: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
Date: May 5, 2009 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

NO It does not, THE SCRIPTURE SAYS ONLY THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE BEAST,FOREVER WILL RECIEVE HIS MARK. The Beast in the garden of Eden inticed Adam to partake of the beastly sinfull nature through sin, but Adam did not worship Satan and offered sacrifices to God and was redeamed from the mark of the beasts fallen nature through Christ redemption.

Cain, Adams son worshiped Satan and killed his brother and was sealed to that evil mark through his fallen nature for his evil. Those who are redeamed through Christ will over come the mark of the beast within their fallen nature and recieve the mark of God in their forehead. “And they shall see Christs face and his name shall be written in their foreheads “Rev.22-4.”

In other words you recieve the mark that you are aiming for or what you worship in life, and are thus sealed to that reward. without Christs sacrifice you cannot be freed from the mark. Thus, John says all of mankind have the mark of the beast, both small and great, free and bond because of the fall of Adam. Revel.13-16.

So even “free men within a free country, the scripture plainly says, are under the influence of the mark. You do not need a new world order system or a computer chip slavery for free men. It was brought about by the fall of Adam to the beast which affected all mankind. Those who refuse to worship the beast are the ones who overcome the mark and gain victory over the beast and his mark through the blood of the lamb. “Revelation 15-2.”

From: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
To: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
Date: May 4, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

Hello again,

You’re a confusing may my friend but let see if I can sort through what you said. You say the scripture says we already have the mark of the beast. Doesn’t the bible say in Revelation 14:9-11 that everyone who has the mark of the beast will go to Hell? If this is true then no one is going to go to Heaven, right?

Lloyd

From: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
To: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
Date: May 4, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: World order theology is confusing to people

I do not dispute the existence of chips. I dispute the fact theat the Bible is referring to a chip. Answere me this,did Christ die for sins, or to prevent computer chips? Reelation 15-2 states the mark is something we overcome and gain victory over through the blood of the lamb. How do you overcome a chip implant. Th3e very wording of the scripture tells us that we already have the mark of the beast and must repent of it. Sounds like our beastly nature from the fall of Adam that Christ helps us overcome through his blood. There is no rational for a chip conspiracy if you follow your Bible. The thing that also bugs me is that people who get sucked into this chip implant idea become cultic in their insistance on it being a chip. I have people call me names and accuse me of not being a christian or supporting the Devil because I do not accept this chip implant spin.
They become so caught up in the rapture to escape the mark theology that not even the Bible can convince them to the contrary that this is faulty in its own logic. The sad thing is that there actually is a world government trying to take over this country and because of all of these idiotic conspiracy ideas many rational people turn away from wanting to fight world government because of the stigma that comes from all of the nut conspiracies associated with it like the 9/11 conspiracies and Masonic underworld secret plots. This actually helps the real world governmet socialists take over America because christians are fighting with the wrong information and this craziness tends to scare away legitamate people from getting aboard to fight it.

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From: Lloyd (Last of the BOHICANS) *T.E.A.*
To: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
Date: May 2, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: World order theology is confusing to people

It’s really not a very far stretch to imagine that soon the verichip will be a flat chip like the ones in credit cards that can be placed “in” the forhead under the skin and outside the skull. Then again there are plenty of Bibles that use the word “on”. What word exactly was it in the original Hebrew text and what were the different definitions listed for that word?

From: Bible Prophecies of 9/11
To:
Date: May 2, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: World order theology is confusing to people

Or, could the mark of the beast be “in the forehead” and not on the forhead? the Bible says “in it” not on it! The forehead has always depicted mans intellect or his mind. Perhaps the mark of Satan happens by choices we make in life happening within our foreheads, or within our minds.

Such an evil choice would also mark the right handed works of the person. He would then surve evil with his right handed works, thus, marking his right hand also.
Read carefully Revelation 15:2 which says we must over come the mark of the beast, and gain victory over it through the blood of Christ. Christ never died for computer chips nor for IBM computer implants.

Christ DIED FOR THE MARK OF SIN ONLY! Perhaps these preachers who teach this computer implant idea through popular left behind movies are dangerously decieving millions of christians with the wrong interpretation of the mark in the Bible? Cain was marked when he killed his brother and no computers existed. Perhaps people cutting off their hands show that this is a dangerous biblical interpretation. Tim McVey killed 168 people in the Oklahoma bombing because he thought the government had planted a chip into his body in 1995. Paul

HAYDEN, Idaho (AP) – A man who believed he bore the “mark of the beast” used a circular saw to amputate one of his hands, cooked it in a microwave and summoned authorities, Kootenai County sheriff’s deputies say.

The man, in his mid-20s, was calm when deputies arrived at his home in this north Idaho town Saturday afternoon, and neither he nor the severed hand bore any noticeable tattoo or other mark, sheriff’s Capt. Ben Wolfinger.

“It had been somewhat cooked by the time the deputy arrived,” Wolfinger said.

The man, whose name was withheld, was in protective custody in the mental health unit of Kootenai Medical Center in Coeur d’Alene, where he and the hand were taken by ambulance. Hospital spokeswoman Lisa Johnson would not say whether an attempt was made to reattach the hand, citing patient confidentiality restrictions.

“He put a tourniquet on his arm before, so he didn’t bleed to death,” Wolfinger said. “That kind of mental illness is just sad.

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The New Testament book of Revelation contains a passage in which an angel is quoted as saying, according to the New International Version of the Bible, “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury.

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The book of Matthew also contains the passage, “And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

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Wolfinger said he didn’t know which hand was amputated. See truth http://www.etyernaltruth.net